Coach Cig and IU

[Alex C]

Anyone getting the sense that IU was built for this?

 

It's like they built there team to win big games. Not with studs everywhere but with discipline, team chemistry, and sound assignment football.

 

This makes me think of one thing. Cignetti might just be .....

Mecha James 

Bizzaro Feanklin

Yinnerti to his Frankyang

 

Insert ant mirror image/ dark twin analogy here...

Why this matters is Sarks big game struggles. I hope hiring coach 'champ is a sign we are addressing this, but Sark needs to do a case study on this Hoosiers to see what lessons he needs to be able to beat Kirby and Day and other championship ready blue bloods. 

 

[Waxahorn]

TV talking heads said they only play 13 different guys on defense. Wow.

[MarkInAustin]

Indiana is in a different zip code for maturity and precision from everyone else in college football.  I think they would win a couple of games in an NFL season they way they have played the last two games.

[whereiend]

They make us look dumb for blowing so much NIL on players that did nothing this year

[horns96]

It has to be the most remarkable story I've witnessed in my ~40 years of closely following sports.

I hope Michael Lewis is already working on the book, because this is 10X more unlikely than Billy Beane's story.

None of it makes sense.  I heard Diamonte Tucker-Dorsey on the radio this week discussing his time with Cignetti at JMU.. They seem to be the most disciplined football team I've ever seen, yet Tucker-Dorsey says Cignetti is not a big fan of practice. Or culture. It's just football.  

How does a coach eschew full-contact practices and only lose one fumble in 15 games?

It just makes no sense.  

 

 

 

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[horns96]

1 hour ago, Alex C said:

...but Sark needs to do a case study on this Hoosiers to see what lessons he needs to be able to beat Kirby and Day and other championship ready blue bloods. 

 

Given everything that's gone down the past two weeks, it looks like Sark is somewhat emulating Cignetti's approach.

[TooBrokeToPayAttention21]

Who are we getting from the Ducks? Do we want anyone from Oregon?

[Califashorn75]

Oregon can go back and crawl into their cave of illusion and grandiosity. All they do is get humiliated nationally. 

[Oldest Horn]

9 hours ago, whereiend said:

They make us look dumb for blowing so much NIL on players that did nothing this year

News flash: they’re making everybody look dumb. 

[Sundancekid]

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[tsip92]

I have no doubt that Cignetti is a good coach, but I also wonder a little if he hasn’t also just had some luck combined with a killer QB.  When I say luck I’m not implying that they aren’t an exceptional team, but injuries and random bounces of the ball are a reality that go hot and cold.  You don’t lead the country in T/O margin, 3rd down conversion percentage, and penalty yardage per game by accident, but I wonder if this isn’t the second coming of Bob Stoops 2000 national championship team.  That team had essentially no missed starts due to injuries which provided an exceptional amount of continuity throughout the season.  By the end of the season they were playing better football than anyone else because they had a level of cohesion that was unmatched.  Stoops had really good teams after that but didn’t win another championship.  

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[SB21]

11 hours ago, Waxahorn said:

TV talking heads said they only play 13 different guys on defense. Wow.

There is no way that’s possible. 
 

11 starters and only 2 subs across those positions a whole game? Doesn’t add up but I understand the point, they have their guys they want on the field and only play a select handful. Makes sense 

[Alex C]

42 minutes ago, tsip92 said:

I have no doubt that Cignetti is a good coach, but I also wonder a little if he hasn’t also just had some luck combined with a killer QB.  When I say luck I’m not implying that they aren’t an exceptional team, but injuries and random bounces of the ball are a reality that go hot and cold.  You don’t lead the country in T/O margin, 3rd down conversion percentage, and penalty yardage per game by accident, but I wonder if this isn’t the second coming of Bob Stoops 2000 national championship team.  That team had essentially no missed starts due to injuries which provided an exceptional amount of continuity throughout the season.  By the end of the season they were playing better football than anyone else because they had a level of cohesion that was unmatched.  Stoops had really good teams after that but didn’t win another championship.  

You know what they say about luck..... It's when opportunity meets preparation.

 

I agree with you on things broke in their favor more often than not. 

I also think they had a week schedule. (Regular season game against Oregon being their only real challenge ... Next difficult was late season Penn State).

What has impressed me is the 2 Oregon games and the Ohio State game. They seem to be unflappable in the face of their best competition.

 

[Here for the Wins]

5 minutes ago, SB21 said:

There is no way that’s possible. 
 

11 starters and only 2 subs across those positions a whole game? Doesn’t add up but I understand the point, they have their guys they want on the field and only play a select handful. Makes sense 

864 defensive snaps.  13 defenders over 400, 15 over 200, and 17 total players over 100 defensive snaps.  That includes last night.

[Sanka Decaf]

It should be noted that playing a softer schedule keeps guys fresh and healthy. They were blowing out competition most of the year.  
 

That’s not to take anything away from their amazing coach and discipline and play. Just pointing out that a key injury can throw off everything. They avoided that. Would they have avoided it with some other tougher schedules?

I think they are still the best team in college football as they are now and if they stayed healthy with anyone’s schedule, they still would be  but would they have stayed as healthy.

 

[Here for the Wins]

1 minute ago, Here for the Wins said:

864 defensive snaps.  13 defenders over 400, 15 over 200, and 17 total players over 100 defensive snaps.  That includes last night.

Now contrast to Texas with 931 defensive snaps.  11 over 400, 21 over 200 and 26 over 100.   That doesn’t even include Terry.

[Here for the Wins]

1 minute ago, Sanka Decaf said:

It should be noted that playing a softer schedule keeps guys fresh and healthy. They were blowing out competition most of the year.  
 

That’s not to take anything away from their amazing coach and discipline and play. Just pointing out that a key injury can throw off everything. They avoided that. Would they have avoided it with some other tougher schedules?

I think they are still the best team in college football as they are now and if they stayed healthy with anyone’s schedule, they still would be  but would they have stayed as healthy.

 

Good question.  You certainly need luck but physical games week after week add up.

[PhillyLucky]

13 hours ago, Waxahorn said:

TV talking heads said they only play 13 different guys on defense. Wow.

That's why they play so good together.  I think PK and company played way too many players this year.  We need to tight up the rotation next year!

[Beldar]

13 hours ago, whereiend said:

They make us look dumb for blowing so much NIL on players that did nothing this year

They were ahead of the game on this portal thing. Someone on that staff elite judge of talent. Heard he was chief talent scout for Saban . Will see how it goes with new players and Josh Hoover at QB instead of Mendoza. 

[Jeff Howe]

4 hours ago, tsip92 said:

I have no doubt that Cignetti is a good coach, but I also wonder a little if he hasn’t also just had some luck combined with a killer QB.  When I say luck I’m not implying that they aren’t an exceptional team, but injuries and random bounces of the ball are a reality that go hot and cold.  You don’t lead the country in T/O margin, 3rd down conversion percentage, and penalty yardage per game by accident, but I wonder if this isn’t the second coming of Bob Stoops 2000 national championship team.  That team had essentially no missed starts due to injuries which provided an exceptional amount of continuity throughout the season.  By the end of the season they were playing better football than anyone else because they had a level of cohesion that was unmatched.  Stoops had really good teams after that but didn’t win another championship.  

Call it luck, call it breaks, but you need them along the way to win a national championship.

[Itsamystery]

It helps when your average age is 23. Stronger, more mature, and focused on the last chance to play college ball will win out over 18 and 19 year old 5 stars.