NFL Draft Live Thread | Round 4

[AusMOJO]

3 hours ago, Here for the Wins said:

Arch and Goosby both could have come out and been first rounders.

We added Moseley and had Moore and Wingo.  It’s likely one of those would not have been happy.  Plus Endries and some highly recruited high schoolers.  There’s a good chance an additional WR does play out as it does in your mind.

As far as guard is concerned, that’s an interesting discussion.  I don’t recall any discussion about Hutson not being a starter.  Generally speaking, we were ok letting Baker and Cojoe battle it out.  Going back 12 months, it’s difficult to see Neto or Kibble or Hutson to guard not being viable options.  None of us are there all the time, but you’d assume that a well thought of recruit in his 4th year would work out fine.  And we had two choices - Neto or Robertson.

There are a multitude of things that could have gone differently to make the playoffs.

It is a little ironic that Arch was blamed early on but almost is blameless in today’s discussions.

Arch was playing horribly early on. He was missing such easy throws that had everyone scratching their head. But he eventually got it going and damn near carried the team to the playoffs. 

This years team is likely going to see a lot more 1st/2nd round talent in the 2027 draft and will give us a better chance for the playoffs if we can figure it out and not shoot ourselves in the foot.

Lot of really talented teams on the schedule. 

[harveycmd]

6 hours ago, tommym said:

These is by far one of the worst draft classes in football history. These GMs on some of these teams wonder why their team sucks, jets and Cardinals look at thier draft. It is crazy.

Many of these picks make you think that more than half of NFL teams draft with their eyes closed. 

Edited 6 hours ago by harveycmd

[Califashorn75]

Such an inexact science. How do you measure heart,  work ethic, fit, desire...the draft is basically a guessing game. There are busts annually. Once the players in the first round see the bag, many just lose the hunger for the game. The Rey Lewis's are few and far between. 

[harveycmd]

10 minutes ago, Califashorn75 said:

Such an inexact science. How do you measure heart,  work ethic, fit, desire...the draft is basically a guessing game. There are busts annually. Once the players in the first round see the bag, many just lose the hunger for the game. The Rey Lewis's are few and far between. 

This is true, but there are just outright bad evaluations of talent. Taking the likes of Golday and Trotter before Hill is crazy. Drafting Boerkhicher at 56 overall is pure malpractice. Those guys could have easily been drafted in third and fourth round.

[Roy Hinojosa]

9 hours ago, Burnt Orange Horn said:

TTU Doubled the Texas offer.

Would Bailey been worth it, tho?

[harveycmd]

4 minutes ago, Roy Hinojosa said:

Would Bailey been worth it, tho?

I don't think so. Did Bailey have twice the production of Simmons? That and you must consider the effect of possible chemistry problems caused by money.

[Jarveaux]

On 4/23/2026 at 8:59 PM, Texas fan in Georgia said:

He’s not better than Bijan to be drafted that high 

Agreed 

[MJW2327]

Kiper has Malik Muhammad then Endries as the best available horns. The run on TEs has been insane so far, surprised Endries lasted this long

[Here for the Wins]

4 hours ago, AusMOJO said:

Arch was playing horribly early on. He was missing such easy throws that had everyone scratching their head. But he eventually got it going and damn near carried the team to the playoffs. 

This years team is likely going to see a lot more 1st/2nd round talent in the 2027 draft and will give us a better chance for the playoffs if we can figure it out and not shoot ourselves in the foot.

Lot of really talented teams on the schedule. 

So you’re saying Arch was indeed partly responsible for not making the playoffs?  I agree, but that’s not really the narrative on the boards I read.

This years team has more margin for error than last. The focus is largely on the portal, but it’s also because guys like Arch, Wingo, Goosby, Baker and Simmons are more mature and should cut down on the misses.

[Rocky P]

49 minutes ago, Here for the Wins said:

So you’re saying Arch was indeed partly responsible for not making the playoffs?  I agree, but that’s not really the narrative on the boards I read.

This years team has more margin for error than last. The focus is largely on the portal, but it’s also because guys like Arch, Wingo, Goosby, Baker and Simmons are more mature and should cut down on the misses.

Its a laundry list of reasons we missed the playoffs.  Archs terrible start to the season is one of them but not the biggest reason or even close

[AusMOJO]

51 minutes ago, Here for the Wins said:

So you’re saying Arch was indeed partly responsible for not making the playoffs?  I agree, but that’s not really the narrative on the boards I read.

This years team has more margin for error than last. The focus is largely on the portal, but it’s also because guys like Arch, Wingo, Goosby, Baker and Simmons are more mature and should cut down on the misses.

No, I think he was the reason we almost did make the playoffs. I'm just saying he started off the year very rough. 

[Gerry Hamilton]

 

[Here for the Wins]

10 minutes ago, Rocky P said:

Its a laundry list of reasons we missed the playoffs.  Archs terrible start to the season is one of them but not the biggest reason or even close

I’m not sure there’s a biggest reason.

Ohio State.  We missed opportunities. We had several critical penalties.  Lost patience in our play call and throw after one resulting in an interception.

UF.  Problems everywhere.  Offense, defense, special teams.  Penalties that were parlayed into turnovers.

UGa.  Dropped balls.  Huge special teams play.  Big penalty that played a big part in falling apart.

14 minutes ago, AusMOJO said:

No, I think he was the reason we almost did make the playoffs. I'm just saying he started off the year very rough. 

If you believe he played a part in any loss, he is a reason.  Even if, he was the best player in every win.

[Thanos72]

15 minutes ago, Rocky P said:

Its a laundry list of reasons we missed the playoffs.  Archs terrible start to the season is one of them but not the biggest reason or even close

It’s close. He missed some significant, and momentum killing, easy throws against osu. That win shifts the season. He’s the primary reason we had a chance to recover and make the playoffs but his poor play against the cream puffs also didn’t help the optics. Oline is #1, Akina/pk secondary, and Arch start imho. 

[Here for the Wins]

6 minutes ago, Thanos72 said:

It’s close. He missed some significant, and momentum killing, easy throws against osu. That win shifts the season. He’s the primary reason we had a chance to recover and make the playoffs but his poor play against the cream puffs also didn’t help the optics. Oline is #1, Akina/pk secondary, and Arch start imho. 

I approach it from a play by play perspective.  So you refer to some Arch throws.  Hill had a chance on 4th and goal versus OSU and whiffed.  Ohio state was likely going to punt but Simmons had a hands to the face that ultimately led to the first OSU score.  Poor play call on QB sneak from the 1.

None of those throws from Arch were in the end zone so we still were presented with the challenge of scoring.

[ElCafetero]

teams would rather draft atm, OSU and Michigan back-up TEs over Endries 🤦🏽‍♂️

[Thanos72]

38 minutes ago, Here for the Wins said:

I approach it from a play by play perspective.  So you refer to some Arch throws.  Hill had a chance on 4th and goal versus OSU and whiffed.  Ohio state was likely going to punt but Simmons had a hands to the face that ultimately led to the first OSU score.  Poor play call on QB sneak from the 1.

None of those throws from Arch were in the end zone so we still were presented with the challenge of scoring.

I replied to an arch comment. He simply wasn’t very good it consistent for early games. It’s observational not critical. He got better. The easiest way to say this is that late season arch played that way from the beginning, we’re in the playoffs. It isn’t blamed, just reasoned. Though, “hero ball” definitely opens up to injuries. 

[LonghornFan4Ever]

If Simpson could get drafted in the first round, I know Chambliss and Moore would’ve been drafted in the first round.

[Here for the Wins]

6 minutes ago, Thanos72 said:

I replied to an arch comment. He simply wasn’t very good it consistent for early games. It’s observational not critical. He got better. The easiest way to say this is that late season arch played that way from the beginning, we’re in the playoffs. It isn’t blamed, just reasoned. Though, “hero ball” definitely opens up to injuries. 

Understood.  It’s football.  Sometimes you play better than others.  I’m always a team guy.  When a guy misses a play or has an off game, all others need to make a play to offset.  I won’t blame guys.  There are ample missed opportunities in a game, from different sources.  

[Jeff Howe]

The fourth round is underway.