OTF Premium Interesting Arch Manning Trend from the Opener (Sunday AM)

[CJ Vogel]

Week ones are good for overreactions and out of proportion takes that typically don't age well, so read into this as you wish.

However, when scouring over the numbers and tape again this morning, there was a clear part of the passing game that felt worse than others – play action passes.

The numbers back it up too.

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Arch on Play Action Pass Attempts

• 10 drop backs
• 5-10 passing
• 26 yards
• 2.6 yards per attempt
• 1 INT
• 2 turnover worthy plays

Arch on Straight Drop Backs

• 24 drop backs
• 12-20 passing
• 144 yards
• 7.4 yards per attempts
• 1 TD
• 0 turnover worthy plays

Perhaps part of the offensive struggles on play action snaps include the average distance of target. On PA snaps, Arch's average distance of target was 11.9, compared to 8.8 on straight drop backs.

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We will see over the next three weeks how this trend continues, but file this one in the growing "Didn't Expect That" folder from the season opener.

[Bobby Burton]

Good points.

Ohio State wasn’t buying into the play-action fake IMO. That’s why there was rarely anyone open deep.

They were willing to give up 5 yards runs and keep their safeties deep. 

[TexasMDcoach]

Interesting observation. Yesterday was a maximal test for a young guy who is a new starter. He misfired on some throws he normally easily makes. Was not a total disaster, but clearly he underachieved.

I think it all comes down to getting more reps and confidence either way. He should accomplish that the next few weeks and then we will see where he really is in the Swamp. 
 

 

[Gerry Hamilton]

Arch will improve as he gains more experience. That is a given. To what level … we shall see.

Sark has been coaching for 25 years. Does he need 30? Or 40 years of experience to get more creative in the red zone? Anyone that watches college football sees creativity an the RZ from coast to coast

[CJ Vogel]

A bright note from Arch was the deep ball, as expected.

 

On passes 20+ yards down the field per PFF:

• 3-6 passing
• 90 yards
• 1 TD
• 1 INT
• average distance of target was 30.3 yards

 

[Joe Zura]

[pinkman_90]

19 minutes ago, Bobby Burton said:

Good points.

Ohio State wasn’t buying into the play-action fake IMO. That’s why there was rarely anyone open deep.

They were willing to give up 5 yards runs and keep their safeties deep. 

They were content sitting back because our RBs aren’t game breakers.  I’d say we lost about 50 yards rushing from Baxter not picking up his feet and Wisner being too patient.  Turning 25 yard holes into 6 yard gains.  

[Lock n Horns]

Is Collin Simmons ready to be an every down player?  Seemed like they ran at him and he didn’t hold the edge. Yesterday we didn’t get them into enough 3rd and longs where they could release the hounds

[Drunk randoke]

One game doesn’t kill or make a season. Hard part is it’s a month until we know anything.  Offense was so awful it’s just left me with a hangover.   See everyone in Austin though. 

[Rocky P]

47 minutes ago, CJ Vogel said:

Week ones are good for overreactions and out of proportion takes that typically don't age well, so read into this as you wish.

However, when scouring over the numbers and tape again this morning, there was a clear part of the passing game that felt worse than others – play action passes.

The numbers back it up too.

***

Arch on Play Action Pass Attempts

• 10 drop backs
• 5-10 passing
• 26 yards
• 2.6 yards per attempt
• 1 INT
• 2 turnover worthy plays

Arch on Straight Drop Backs

• 24 drop backs
• 12-20 passing
• 144 yards
• 7.4 yards per attempts
• 1 TD
• 0 turnover worthy plays

Perhaps part of the offensive struggles on play action snaps include the average distance of target. On PA snaps, Arch's average distance of target was 11.9, compared to 8.8 on straight drop backs.

***

We will see over the next three weeks how this trend continues, but file this one in the growing "Didn't Expect That" folder from the season opener.

Ive seen posts people saying that Arch has a hurt shoulder.  Any truth to it?  I thought the aame thing eith bow he was side arming a lot of passes he didnt need to.

[UT_Ro]

Sark has to stop trying to control the game & just let Arch play.. The training wheels should be off & the playbook wide open!!

2nd note: Redzone put Neto at fullback & problem is solved, that's if he's still bought in losing his job

Edited 3 hours ago by UT_Ro

[Connor Vaughn]

I think it’s time we retire the “offensive guru,” title that Sark has been given, until further notice. 

[chennups]

 

[Texas fan in Georgia]

Somebody call chip kelly and ask if he’s bored and ready to come to work

[Connor Vaughn]

Honestly on second thought (idk if someone has already mentioned this or not) but just with how out of character Sark and Arch were yesterday, I’m choosing to believe the football gods cursed Texas just for the day so Lee Corso could go out as a winner.

[Texas fan in Georgia]

Tom herman averaged 

2017: 31.5 PPG

2018: 31.1 PPG

2019: 35.2 PPG

2020: 42.7(!!) PPG 

 

SARKS PPG AT TEXAS:

2021: 35.2 PPG

2022: 34.5 PPG

2023: 35.8 PPG

2024: 33.3 PPG

 

 

[Texas fan in Georgia]

4 minutes ago, Connor Vaughn said:

Honestly on second thought (idk if someone has already mentioned this or not) but just with how out of character Sark and Arch were yesterday, I’m choosing to believe the football gods cursed Texas just for the day so Lee Corso could go out as a winner.

I mean Lee corso was the only one to pick fsu and fsu blew Alabama out . That 14 point score isn’t indicative of how fsu physically beat down alabama

[Joe Zura]

So this is where I’m at week one. This is going to be an interesting year in college football. Yes arch struggled but he is a manning and will get better over the season. But after watching the games yesterday the QB’s across the country struggled not just arch. The Ohio state QB eh, Alabama QB was not good, Clemson QB played worse than arch in my opinion and he is a 4 year stater right? Penn state QB is a fraud I will die on that hill, Michigan QB eh, basically college football is going to be wild this year and I’m here for it 🤘

[Bobby_Batronic]

1 hour ago, Bobby Burton said:

Good points.

Ohio State wasn’t buying into the play-action fake IMO. That’s why there was rarely anyone open deep.

They were willing to give up 5 yards runs and keep their safeties deep. 

Football is hard when a team of equal talent refuses to use the playground you’ve built for them. 
 

It took us about 2.5 quarters to figure that out, and adjust. Maybe with an extra quarter to work with we could have done something. I suspect several other teams will accept that we don’t have the developed running backs to make them pay for shrugging their shoulders at our rushing attack. 
 

In some defense of Sark he had to go in blind against the Patricia defense, but you have to see pretty early on that they weren’t going to let Sayin beat them and take the FGs. 
 

The general inaccuracy displayed yesterday was a revelation. 

[CHorn427]

Seems we went broke not taking a profit yesterday

[Sanka Decaf]

Of the 3 big games yesterday, the defenses generally looked better than the offenses (Alabama looks like the exception).  They made QBs look mortal (or worse).  Not a surprise.  Clemson was missing a key weapon on offense for most of the game.  That, plus no running game, hurt them badly against what looks like a good LSU team.  But, in all the other two games, the losing team had worse stats across the board.  Texas didn't.  They just had worst QB play generally and more mistakes.  

 

[John F.]

Hopefully this is a fluke not a trend. The running game was one of the bright spots yesterday. With Baxter ahead of schedule and the OL looking solid this could be a great running team. A good PA attack would really complement that. Would be unfortunate if Arch isn’t good at it 

[Oldest Horn]

OhSt was playing pretty disciplined defense. While they didn’t get a lot of sacks, they had a lot of pressures and did not over-pursue. 

[Burnt Orange Horn]

The best thing about this game is it highlighted where Texas needs more work.  All problems are fixable. Littleton and Bouwmeister are strengths.  Even Stroh was an upgrade.  He just needs to release from his primary target to go block at the next level.

This game was an excellent tutorial on how bad decisions and errors can keep them from winning against a very good  team they otherwise dominated. It is all correctable.

The next few games will allow Texas to play deeper into the roster.  There may be a couple of gems discovered there.

Edited 2 hours ago by Burnt Orange Horn

[Sanka Decaf]

Who else noticed how effortless Meester looked punting yesterday?