TooBrokeToPayAttention21 Posted February 2 Posted February 2 What the freaking heck did they just do. They just moved down the list of Dallas Franchises behind the Wings and that soccer team we have in Frisco. 1 5 1 Quote
Moderators Jeff Howe Posted February 2 Moderators Posted February 2 For those who don’t know: 2 2 Quote
Moderators Jeff Howe Posted February 2 Moderators Posted February 2 Shocked doesn’t begin to describe what I’m feeling as a Mavs fan. 6 1 2 Quote
horns96 Posted February 2 Posted February 2 (edited) https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/43659380/sources-mavericks-trading-doncic-lakers-anthony-davis "I believe that defense wins championships," Mavs general manager Nico Harrison told ESPN, explaining his motivation to deal Doncic for Davis. "I believe that getting an All-Defensive center and an All-NBA player with a defensive mindset gives us a better chance. We're built to win now and in the future." Lakers superstar LeBron James learned of the trade when it broke while he was out to dinner with his family after Saturday's win against the New York Knicks, sources close to James told ESPN. James was surprised by the news, is processing it and had no idea it was in the works, sources said. The Mavericks were motivated to move Doncic due to his constant conditioning concerns, sources told ESPN. There had been significant frustration within the organization about Doncic's lack of discipline regarding his diet and conditioning, which team sources considered a major factor in his injury issues. Edited February 2 by horns96 Quote
Bobbers Posted February 2 Posted February 2 What a slap in the face for Luka, but I don't blame the Mavs. If Luka won't work out to stay in shape and you are forced to give him a long term max contract your team is screwed. Your leader sets the tone. Barkley won zero titles for the same reason. Lazy stars kill franchises. 1 1 1 Quote
817 Boxing B Posted February 2 Posted February 2 Look... Luka is a great player, but I understand why. Luka never committed to defense or his body. If I'm going to be on the hook for half a billion dollars for a guy, he better come in shape and ready to work. We've already seen Luka have back problems and now, his calf. KD and Kobe, I remember vividly, had calf issues and then boom, they blew their Achilles. Those guys were way more committed. I hate it.. but I know Jason Kidd wants a team that will compete on the defensive end and even Klay gives more effort on that end than Luka does, even at this stage. We have watched this Mavs team compete well without him, and I think ownership and the GM, along with Kidd saw that, as well, at the same time. Biggest trade in NBA history, no question. 1 Quote
harveycmd Posted February 2 Posted February 2 As a former Lakers fan, I don't like trading for chubby boy. Since the NBA has been a joke for about fifteen years, it doesn't really matter. 1 1 Quote
Class of 04 Posted February 2 Posted February 2 2 hours ago, 817 Boxing B said: Look... Luka is a great player, but I understand why. Luka never committed to defense or his body. If I'm going to be on the hook for half a billion dollars for a guy, he better come in shape and ready to work. We've already seen Luka have back problems and now, his calf. KD and Kobe, I remember vividly, had calf issues and then boom, they blew their Achilles. Those guys were way more committed. I hate it.. but I know Jason Kidd wants a team that will compete on the defensive end and even Klay gives more effort on that end than Luka does, even at this stage. We have watched this Mavs team compete well without him, and I think ownership and the GM, along with Kidd saw that, as well, at the same time. Biggest trade in NBA history, no question. I agree if Luka woulda signed the super max deal it would have been a disaster for the Mav's, by the end of the contract he would look like Russell Crowe. Not the Gladiator Russell Crowe, but the Thor Love and Thunder 300 lb, Russell Crowe. The guy has no respect for his body so in saying that has no respect for his teammates or organization. It's a sad deal. 1 1 Quote
Realist Horn Posted February 2 Posted February 2 That traded would get VETO’ed in most fantasy leagues. How the Mavs didn’t hold out for multiple (thinking 3+) is beyond me. I don’t think the shopped him to anyone else. Cuban would have never let this happen 5 1 Quote
AusMOJO Posted February 2 Posted February 2 I'm reading some interesting comments about this and apparently the new owner is a big casino guy in Vegas? Some suggest that he may be looking to take the team out of Dallas and relocate them to Las Vegas? That would be a wild move. So get rid of your best player, get people disinterested and then announce the team is moving for "insert reason". No idea, just what I'm sussing out. Don't really follow anyone in the NBA close enough, let alone the Mav's but this is just a wildly stupid move on their part. He's what? 25 or so, right? Guy almost averages a triple double every year and you trade him. Quote
TexasMDcoach Posted February 2 Posted February 2 (edited) Never, never trade the young face of the organization and a future top 25 best ever player who just took you to the finals for an old center…and then say you made the trade because “defense wins championships” as your justification . No, you build around that piece. Edited February 2 by TexasMDcoach 1 Quote
MarkInAustin Posted February 2 Posted February 2 40 minutes ago, Realist Horn said: Cuban would have never let this happen I am curious about this part of the story, because Mark Cuban supposedly retained control of basketball operations with his remaining minority interest. It seems to the entire viewing world, including me, that Luka was worth more than what Dallas received in return, and none of us think Cuban would have agreed to a grossly unfavorable deal. 2 Quote
harveycmd Posted February 2 Posted February 2 Luka is equivalent to a dozen hamburgers and a two for one taco special. Quote
t.newman Posted February 2 Posted February 2 So many wild theories out there... has to be more to this than a straight-up basketball move. Don't know much and I care even less, but I know Mark Cuban didn't do this. Quote
Moderators Jeff Howe Posted February 2 Moderators Posted February 2 8 hours ago, horns96 said: https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/43659380/sources-mavericks-trading-doncic-lakers-anthony-davis "I believe that defense wins championships," Mavs general manager Nico Harrison told ESPN, explaining his motivation to deal Doncic for Davis. "I believe that getting an All-Defensive center and an All-NBA player with a defensive mindset gives us a better chance. We're built to win now and in the future." Lakers superstar LeBron James learned of the trade when it broke while he was out to dinner with his family after Saturday's win against the New York Knicks, sources close to James told ESPN. James was surprised by the news, is processing it and had no idea it was in the works, sources said. The Mavericks were motivated to move Doncic due to his constant conditioning concerns, sources told ESPN. There had been significant frustration within the organization about Doncic's lack of discipline regarding his diet and conditioning, which team sources considered a major factor in his injury issues. If this trade lights a fire under Luka and he maximizes his potential, this could be the basketball equivalent of the Red Sox trading Babe Ruth to the Yankees. 5 Quote
Hank Kingsley Posted February 2 Posted February 2 Can't believe I'm saying this as a born and raised Houstonian, but I actually feel sorry for Dallas fans. This trade was practically a criminal act. 2 Quote
Glass Joe Posted February 2 Posted February 2 (edited) I had Luka being traded to New Orleans for Zion Williamson. Seemed like fair value on a caloric scale. Edited February 2 by Glass Joe 2 Quote
Jordan91 Posted February 2 Posted February 2 2 hours ago, TexasMDcoach said: Never, never trade the young face of the organization and a future top 25 best ever player who just took you to the finals for an old center…and then say you made the trade because “defense wins championships” as your justification . No, you build around that piece. Has to be something that really concerned the Mavs about Luka. Otherwise, it may be the dumbest trade in NBA history. 1 Quote
cmk4pres Posted February 2 Posted February 2 59 minutes ago, Jeff Howe said: If this trade lights a fire under Luka and he maximizes his potential, this could be the basketball equivalent of the Red Sox trading Babe Ruth to the Yankees. Tap the freakin brakes Quote
MarkInAustin Posted February 2 Posted February 2 Now all LA must do is trade LeBron for Jokovic, straight up. It was hard to think of a more baffling deal... Quote
Stuey22 Posted February 2 Posted February 2 9 hours ago, Jeff Howe said: Shocked doesn’t begin to describe what I’m feeling as a Mavs fan. Still hasn’t sunk in. I think Nico is a great GM, which makes this more perplexing. Quote
pinkman_90 Posted February 2 Posted February 2 Regardless of whether there was something going on with Mavs/Luka or not, it was still a terrible trade. If you’re going to trade him you absolutely have to maximize the return. This return feels like a favor from Harrison to his buddy Pelinka. Quote
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