Burns Is Awful!!!

[Arch2025]

Such a liability…

[Adam Lane]

I've seen him twice in the past week and he has imploded both times.  Season story.

 

[GoHorns1]

When he has his stuff great when he doesn’t it sucks.

Edited 16 hours ago by GoHorns1

[khorn5]

Seems to be great for a batter.  Then he starts to feel himself a bit after a K and loses it.  It’s like clockwork lately.  Quit messing with the off speed.  He’s in to throw 97. Just throw 97!

[harveycmd]

Burns isn't calling his own pitches. Weiner calls the pitches. In the postgame, Schloss said the fourth ball on the first walk was called to be off the plate because the batter liked to chase. He didn't chase and the walk resulted. The second walk was on Burns.

Schloss said it's on him to put Burns in better spots. That's him covering for his player, but it's true too. Knowing that Burns is a little wild under pressure, you must account for that. But you have to think about who else would you put in and who are you saving for another day.

[bevocbs]

He is definitely up and down. But situations really matter. He is much better when he comes in for a clean inning. It seems like when he comes in for high level situations like last night, he gets too amped up and overthrows, causing the control issues. That is why he didn't make it (and probably never will) in the closer role.

But he had a couple of good outings recently, and I still think he can help us in the final push. I actually feel like if they had put him in to start the 6th, instead of trying to extend DV another inning, he probably would have been fine for an inning or two. But I also understand why they would want to ride DV as long as they could.

[tsip92]

I understand the sentiment but I’m not a fan of starting threads specifically to sh*t on our own players.  

[KC Banks]

Agreed, @tsip92

[Q]

4 minutes ago, tsip92 said:

I understand the sentiment but I’m not a fan of starting threads specifically to sh*t on our own players.  

I second this. I tend to root for them to pull it together before posting negatively. But I've been yelled at before saying that's what the forums are for lmao 🤷🏿‍♂️

[Lock n Horns]

25 minutes ago, Q said:

I second this. I tend to root for them to pull it together before posting negatively. But I've been yelled at before saying that's what the forums are for lmao 🤷🏿‍♂️

Totally agree. We are better than this. Don’t have to be a homer but we are all want success. 

[Jeff Howe]

4 hours ago, harveycmd said:

Burns isn't calling his own pitches. Weiner calls the pitches. In the postgame, Schloss said the fourth ball on the first walk was called to be off the plate because the batter liked to chase. He didn't chase and the walk resulted. The second walk was on Burns.

Schloss said it's on him to put Burns in better spots. That's him covering for his player, but it's true too. Knowing that Burns is a little wild under pressure, you must account for that. But you have to think about who else would you put in and who are you saving for another day.

Correct assessment on all accounts. Specifically, Burns missed with a cutter on the 3-2 pitch to Smith. They felt Smith was in swing mode and the cutter didn’t bite enough to convince him to take a hack.

Someone mentioned it earlier in the thread, but Burns seems better when coming in for a clean inning or with less traffic on the bases.

[Burnt Orange Horn]

No pitcher is any good unless he can throw strikes.  Bottom line.

[dentonhorn]

Other teams pitchers can be awful, ours just need some work. 

[Neil Leininger]

5 hours ago, khorn5 said:

Seems to be great for a batter.  Then he starts to feel himself a bit after a K and loses it.  It’s like clockwork lately.  Quit messing with the off speed.  He’s in to throw 97. Just throw 97!

His delivery is so violent he's never going to have control throwing 97. You have to be a special type of athlete to throw 97 in the zone with a repeatable delivery.

[Here for the Wins]

2 hours ago, tsip92 said:

I understand the sentiment but I’m not a fan of starting threads specifically to sh*t on our own players.  

How else is one to proclaim “I’m a man” other to make such a proclamation on a message board?

[Assistant Regional Manager]

15 hours ago, Adam Lane said:

I've seen him twice in the past week and he has imploded both times.  Season story.

 

He is arguably the reason we won the UCSB game.

[khorn5]

57 minutes ago, Neil Leininger said:

His delivery is so violent he's never going to have control throwing 97. You have to be a special type of athlete to throw 97 in the zone with a repeatable delivery.

Thats understood, but that’s exactly what he’s in to do.  He’s in to throw it by them with bases loaded under 2 outs.  They’ve worked with him the entire year. He’s only needed for 2/3 outs.  I think the staff knows it’s in him.  If he has to dial it back to 94 fine, but his game isn’t bending spin.  I’d like to see him succeed here, not a lot of 96/99 arms floating around. 

[TCope111]

Burns has been up and down all year. We need him and that means taking the good with the bad. He didn’t cost us a win last night and can still help us win another game or 2 this year. 

[Here for the Wins]

Watching Georgia extend their starter then struggle from the pen and MSU using a starter to hang on are pretty solid indicators of how other programs feel about their bullpens.

I am not even sure what Oregon was doing - two low use relievers then a guy that had started.